i think one of my favorite qualities of landscape architects is their ability to infiltrate into so many worlds of design...
i just began working for a plant nursery and doing small garden design which is quite different from the work that i have done previously in urban design and environmental restoration firms. what is it that you work on? is it a specific scale of design or niche? i'm interested in who is here and how you are using landscape architecture in the world!
i just began working for a plant nursery and doing small garden design which is quite different from the work that i have done previously in urban design and environmental restoration firms. what is it that you work on? is it a specific scale of design or niche? i'm interested in who is here and how you are using landscape architecture in the world!
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Tue, March 27, 2007 - 8:00 AMAt my previous job I worked a lot on smaller subdivisions and large high-end residential. My current job we mostly work on large subdivisions, parks, and institutions. I like not working on residential anymore strictly from a budget standpoint. They have a tendency to eat up budgets really fast through scope creep. Plus I can do a lot of the same creative design with models for the large subdivisions. -
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Sat, April 7, 2007 - 9:29 AMI got bored of large scale stuff cause it's like honey loucust here, pine here, bench, burning bushes, codes, tree stakes, inspections, bla bla bla, form always has to follow function, you have to do what you were taught in school...then it gets awarded to the lowest bidder. I used to be all like: "Let's go check out the job!" Then after awhile I was like f*ck it.
I just do residentials from start to finish. I hold the image of it in my head, feel myself in it, put it on paper, do everything I can to convince the customer. A customer that understands my vision is like a gift from god. Making landscapes like that is my favorite form of communication. -
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Sat, April 7, 2007 - 9:37 AMMy style is don't tell me how to think! You don't know me, I do whatever I want! -
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Sat, April 7, 2007 - 12:35 PMThat's not real client-friendly. To be successful you have to be able to listen to what the client wants. We can still be creative, but from a business standpoint we can't just do whatever we want.
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Sat, April 7, 2007 - 12:33 PMYou don't have to be so condescending about it. Geez. -
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Sat, April 7, 2007 - 3:11 PMI wasn't trying to be condescending about it, I was just acting like a troubled teen on Jerry Springer...I get around, I do what I want! You don't know me!
If you tell yourself that you can create exactly what you see in your mind without anyone telling you otherwise, you can do it. I really don't know how else to explain it. There are customers out there that will let you do anything. You will find them and they will find you. There is no limit on what you can create. If you beleive that you can only do what the customer wants you are only going to be able to do what the customer wants, you're only going to get customers like that. If you let yourself understand that I garantee you will start to get jobs you've only dreamed of. -
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Tue, April 24, 2007 - 2:57 PMI occasionally work on a commercial landscape project -- but I pick and choose those projects, since I am mostly interested in creating unique landscapes for individuals to live with, use and enjoy. The kind of commercial work I have done has been things like interpretive trails in SuperFund sites with remedial landscape restoration. ... nature centers, environmentally fragile habitat restoration, community gardens, school wildlife habitats, educational settings, stuff like that. I have also worked on a few office parks, where the developers were interested in low-impact landscapes, sustainable landscapes using mostly native plants and environmentally friendly solutions to issues such as retention ponds, rain gardens, habitat restoration.
But my MAIN passion as I said is in residential design. I like to work for a range of clients, from high-end landscapes that I get to follow from initial idea to finished installation ... all the way down to a small garden for a Habitat--for--Humanity house or a tiny water garden for a fixed-income senior. I can't afford to work only for low income clients, but I try to allow time for all kinds of jobs, since my satisfaction comes mostly from seeing the look of pleasure and belonging on the face of happy customers. That's what rings my bell -- knowing I made someone happy and helped them CONNECT to Nature through their garden.
Dane, I agree with what Ms.Purity wrote. Your approach to practicing landscape architecture -- and your attitude toward your clients -- does not sound client friendly. Ms. Purity wrote "To be successful you have to be able to listen to what the client wants. We can still be creative, but from a business standpoint we can't just do whatever we want."
Dane, you wrote, "My style is don't tell me how to think! You don't know me, I do whatever I want!" Okay -- if you can get great jobs that give you the kind of satisfaction and fulfillment you want in SPITE of your attitude towards your clients, then more power to you. But wow! If I were a potential client of yours, considering comissioning you to do a landscape design and you said that -- or even gave me that impression -- I would tell you thank you very much but no thank you!
It sounds to me, like you are looking for the kind of design jobs that feed your ego, or perhaps it's just you think of landscape design as an art medium and you are the Artiste.
Like you, when I get a client who understands my vision for their landscape I feel blessed -- yet maybe there is a difference between the way I get to that vision -- and the way YOU get to your vision. My approach is above all else - Listen to the Client! After all, THEY are the ones who will be living in the landscape, who have to pay for it, and use it. You are the designer. They are the users of the landscape. So whether your clients are homeowners or an entire city neighborhood or millions of city dwellers using a park, the most important aspect of good design, IMHO is to be able to listen to the ultimate users of the landscape and to apply your expertise and knowledge and artistry to making the best possible landscape for the users. Not for your portfolio or your own gratification.
Having said that, I agree with you that having a unique vision -- and then, having clients who can buy into that vision -- helps maintain our interest in working in design. It helps us not get bored. It helps us feel good about what we do for a living. Still, the way you said it: "I do whatever I want!" --- yikes! That really grates on me. I sure wouldn't want to hire you to design something for me. I want someone who will listen to what I like, what I need and want, how I'm going to use the space, and then to guide me towards the best possible solution, all the while letting me have some ownership in the resulting landscape.
I'm interested to know if you really meant it the way I have interpreted your words in this discussion. I'd like to hear what you think about the difference between your approach and mine (and possibly ms. Purity's)
Vanessa, sorry to highjack your thread here ... hope my first paragraph answered your question.
Maureen Shaughnessy
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Thu, April 26, 2007 - 4:03 PMI am just starting my own practice - about 1.5 years in - so I am the kind of landscape architect that will do anything that pays me my rate. :-)
I have been collaborating with a friend lately who is a city planner, doing lot analyses, trying to add "value" to the city planning process from a landscape architectural point of view at the scale of site-by-site. It's pretty interesting. when I was in grad school on the East Coast, I worked on some planned unit developments as a designer - ie trying to use the tools of zoning to achieve design goals.
I have private residential clients and affordable housing projects too. Housing and people and living and society. Any way it comes up.
I hereby opt out of the Dane conversation, btw. Connecting with the users is what gives the work meaning for me. -
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Sat, May 12, 2007 - 3:42 PMI was just awnsering with "I do what I wan't, you don't know me!" because it's funny. Hasn't anyone seen troubled teens on Jerry Springer?
When someone wants this or that I'll give it to them even if it doesnt agree with my eyes. I suck it up. I know a good number of you do too, we all have to eat and live stuff...There are lots of customers out there that will still let you do anything you want, they are the best. As far as what kind of landscape architect I am I just like to keep to myself, It's hard to explain.
...Off the subject...It would awesome to buy land and just landscape it. Just imagine 20 acres of the type of land you want. Imagine being able to spend your life creating what you hold in your mind, there's no reason you can't. Yeah that's cool isn't it? -
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Mon, May 14, 2007 - 11:22 AM"It would awesome to buy land and just landscape it. "
Hey Dane, I'll engage with that line of conversation! I love having my own backyard. It is my landscape laboratory and as a result it often looks, well, disreputable is kind... but I can't resist getting busy with the shovel when the mood hits. I have made some big mistakes at my house, it's all good. -
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Mon, May 14, 2007 - 11:52 AMI swear my backyard is a giant plant experiment, just to see how they grow in my area -
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Tue, May 15, 2007 - 5:59 PMUh, today I just spent another $70 on plants for ME. Couldn't find anything for my client, however.
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Tue, May 29, 2007 - 6:38 AMGreen roof design! We'll honestly my office is a study of contrasts. We do work nationwide on green roof design, in fact we did more square feet of green roof in 2005 than any other firm in the country. I love it as much for its technical challenges as for the way we try to integrate bluff/ridge plant matrices in our new work. I also do a lot of synthetic (artificial) turf for athletic fields. To say the least, it's awkward to design 81,000 square feet of plastic on the landscape then claim to be environmentally progressive. On the plus side I get to visit a lot of stadiums and I get to see some of the work we've done on national TV in the fall.
Then it's a grab-bag of work in Missouri and Eastern Kansas (I'm in Kansas City) - historic landscape studies, campus design, streetscapes, parks. I totally agree with your comment about landscape archiect's ability to infiltrate different worlds of design - if the general public knew what landscape architects do we'd probably be 8 different professions by now. -
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Wed, June 27, 2007 - 7:14 AMyou know i qualified about 12 years ago... was doing a project as a MA and just hung up the whole thing... it was all so horribly boring commercialism that i didnt want to be part of... so a ran away and travelled the world and trained as a cook... and now im a gardening cook i guess? i do consultancy and help me neighbourhood keep and go green and thats it.
im curious... have others just felt like that? that i cant plan another "car park" or shoping centre? -
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Tue, August 7, 2007 - 10:53 AMPrivate residential has it's own issues but at least it's not carparks. I have persuaded clients to use lots of cool materials this year, even did a (tiny) rooftop garden on a shed. :)
big projects with lots of production work that can be shifted to entry level staff are more profitable. Most larger firms are able to continue to exist because they are set up primarily to make money, and I guess there's nothing wrong with that - but it's not as much fun.
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Mon, August 6, 2007 - 8:45 PMMaybe this is a little far away from the title, but i really wanna share the nature landscape in this famous city in China - Guilin. YOu could see the pics and info here. It is too beautiful to discribe, like Godgiven....www.foreignercn.com/index.ph...6973.html